Original thread here:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread369106/pg1
There are just pages and pages to this thread; many from cruel and scared skeptics who cannot accept any reality other than the one they’ve created in their own minds. (“Yeah right, like an alien would do ______!” – Oh really little skeptic, and where did you get your PhD in Xenopsychology?)
Anyway, I thought this story was awesome and really fun to read; even though I’m more scared of the hu-man than the fish-man. I find it highly believable. It fits the current mythology and the tone of the posts (and even the wife getting involved) seems a genuine psychological reaction to such a distressing event. As one of the posters suggested, this man probably has a suppressed abduction history that caused him to react with such blind anger rather than curiosity or shock.
By the way, there is a history of fishmen aliens dealing with humans – look into the Nommos as described by the Dogon people (who said that the fishmen came from the binary star system of Sirius. Somehow they knew that Sirius was a binary star system at a time when we did not have the technology to know such a thing. This link explains it all better than wikipedia does.) The Babylonian Oannes (be careful with that link: the Oannes bit is an accurate quote, but the rest borders on madness) is a fish-god associated with giving knowledge to humans; also known as Ea, Enki, Dagon. The continent of Atlantis was supposedly the kingdom of the fish-god Poseidon. And Satyavrata is a fishy Vishnu! (Vishnu’s First Incarnation) Good thing we are leaving the age of the fish (Pisces) for the Age of Aquarius; I guess? (Edit: This amphibious gods link coveres the lot!)

(Click Read More if you want to read the meaningful posts… I’ve done the work for you. I did remove a lot of the Dan Tanna posts that I thought didn’t carry any valid information. I did leave many that only serve as character reference; be that reaction positive or negative for you. If you want to just read the original thread you are welcome to.)
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WARNING: THIS POST CONTAINS DESCRIPTIONS OF A VIOLENT NATURE, AND WORDING THAT MAY OFFEND SOME PEOPLE. THERE IS NO SWEARING, BUT BRUTAL AND FRANK OPINIONS FROM MYSELF AND MY WIFE.
This was posted in RATS for valid discussion because I needed breathing / thinking space before or if ever this was posted main board.
many members refuse to buy RATS access but want to contribute. So, after much discussion I have decided to ATS this for the main board.
Any flaming gets you hit with the ignore stick ok ? OK..here it is (with answers / questions from other ATS members removed) Feel free to ask questions.
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An encounter with a non-human being.
First of all let me explain why this is in RATS.
I want this kept securely away from the main boards because of the nature of the event, and my actions during and after the event.
So, here goes.
It was the night of the 1st of July 2008, and I the wife and our little one were asleep in the bed, when I was awoken by one of those ‘out of place noises’ that any parent will tell you this: when a noise is out of place your mind becomes instantly alert.
So i opend an eye, saw the wife and little one were in the bed, so i thought ‘hell’ must be a noise outside.
Then a shadow flitted across the corner of the room, so i decided to lay still, as if it was a person in the room they were going to get the good news.
Then after about a minutes watching, this golden figure stepped towards the bed. It was appalling. I have never, ever in my life seen some thing so dreadful or absolutely horrific in my life.
Here is the drawing I did of this creature so you can see what i am on about.

It was 6 feet tall, well built, huge, and I mean huge eyes like a damn fish, and thats what its eniter being reminded me of. A two legged two armed fish / man type being. It was copper /bronze coloured, scaled and its clothing was a lighter golden colour and scaled too.
It seemed to watch the wife / baby for a while, and then reached out like it was going to touch one of them.
The first knife blow hit it right in the left eye as i pulled it down and towards me.
The second / third / fourth hit it in the throat and jaw area, and it really then decided it didn’t want to play any more.
We rolled off the bed onto the floor and I really went totally mad on it to be honest. A rage, red rage sweeped through me at the thought that this ‘thing’ was trying to steal my baby /wife..
On the floor it tried to grab my arm, so I screamed at the wife for the good news.
She threw it at me, so i started with my left hand to smash against its skull and right side of the face.
here the being knew it was dead. i was I admit in a murderous rage by this point, and it knew it.
However it never gave up trying to escape, it rolled onto its front and tried to reach the door way, but it took maybe another thirty blows to the back and head.. I stood up, grabbed my ice axe from the shelf as the good news was stuck in its shoulder real deep and was about to deal a real killing blow to its skull when it rolled over onto is back.
It opend both palms, held its hands open palm up, and then just started to wobble and fade in and out. . . .but this thing was getting away so i tried leaping on it again.
It was like leaping onto a live wire.
I skipped backwards away from it, and it just vanished. Clean scott away right in front of us.
My heart was going fifty to the billion, and i looked around the room.
Then you know what we did ? we went to sleep! yes, i know, we went to sleep as a wave of tiredness washed over us both seems totally insane, and I agree with you, it IS totally insane.
But its what we did.
We woke in the morning like nothing had happend, got up, and it was only as I stood on one of my knives on the floor did it sink in. Its blade was snapped clean off, and was no where to be seen.
The room was spotless, we both looked at each other… and my wife said to me..
That wasn’t a dream i had last night of you fighting that fish man was it ?
So….
if you laugh, you laugh. Fair enough.
But, if your reading this Mr Fish being, come back to my house ever again and Im going to make sure that my axe is buried deep in your skull and your dead body won’t ‘vanish’ because ill parade your sorry arse on world wide TV. Oh and Mr Fish ? if you got the mustard to come back, please give me back the good news. I’ll fight you for it.
POST 2.
The good news is (was) my very nasty japanese styled fighting knife.
I named it the ‘good news’ in a parody. because the real ‘good news’ is the gopsel and jesus.
If i give you my ‘ good news’ your meeting Jesus real quick…. alot sooner than you anticipated.. This little bastard has it embedded in its back.
I pretty damn annoyed at this actually.
As for being a wind up ? not at all. Its a genuine, 100% encounter that i had, in my home, with a creature that was I feel trying to abduct either my wife, or my baby, or both.
This is a pic from CRKT – My blade is the all black version. Was the all black version.

So… in a nutshell, this is no wind up, no BS, and it is in RATS because of my need for discussion in a rational, thought out way.
The one thing that really, really bothers me ? is why on earth did we just say ‘well lets go to sleep’.. I mean, I have been in alot of situations where i have been pumped stupid on adrenalin and sleep afterwards ? no way you jabber like a mad man for days afterwards…
Yet, we just went..to sleep ??
POST 3:
It took more than 100 solid shots to the face, neck, chest and back.. not counting the severe wounds to its head.
I admit i put this in RATS because of the fact that I truely intended to kill this being stone cold dead. Its face was hanging off, its eye was totally destroyed, its neck was opend wide and yet not only did it not die.. but I have a horrible suspicion that we went to sleep and the room got ‘tidied up’ by ‘some thing’..
You know how it is with kids – a house gets messy. Our room the next morning looked like we had a maid in. No joke.
POST 4:
My Hiattsu has vanished.. as it was in this things back jammed fast in its shoulder. Thats why i grabbed the ice axe from the shelf. The broken knife is another blade that was used before it tried to wrestle me and we rolled off the bed.
Yes before any one asks, i do have many, many knives and assorted axes / ice axes in my home.
POST 5: A FELLOW MEMBER ASKED IF I REMEMBER ANY SMELLS / LIQUIDS
You know I do. It was like a runny marmalde – orange, sticky and see through, not like the thick dark liquid that is human blood. One detail i vividly remember and will never forget is they eye exploded like it was under pressure like a balloon, not like when you dissect a cows eye in a science glass – more a sudden explosive decompression than a slow deflation.
One odour was a metallic tang taste in the room like . . .like when you shoot off a few hundred rounds and the barrels starting to glow.. and you can taste the lead in the air mixed with gun powder.
POST 6: member asks if any thing else bothers me about the event.
The sleep bothers me alot actually. We just went ‘oh well, off to sleep’.
No…Hot # I am stocked on adrenalin gibbering away… just…lets go sleep.
the wounds this thing took would of killed a human being with no doubt at all. My blades are always kept razor sharp, and I know how to use them to really hasten some ones demise.
This thing took it and more… it really was going to get an axe embedded in its head had it not decided to electrocute me.
POST 7: A member asked had i seen a UFO / Invited this creature into my home.
There is but without being really weird about it, I think i may have poked my nose where its not wanted to be honest.
Right, I seen some thing weird over the tree tops of culloden woods in inverness. So, I took to keeping an eye out.
I got three small low quality pics with a mobile phone that were not good enough to start a thread with in ATS, but I did share them in chat.
Then this.
It is bloody mad, and I know people are going to go .. wtf ?? you barking mad mate, and i truely understand…
but, at the end of the day I tried my level best to kill this being, and it took a licking and kept on kicking.
So……why do I not place into the thread other ATS mebers questions ? simply because they are getting the respect from me that their questions are their private matters. Some were answered in u2u’s, others in thread. I will NOT be posting any RATS material that is not my own.
Daniel….
theres more in the thread so be patient… i am, copying and pasting it across from RATS.
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The pic over culloden woods that i think may have started all of this.

However, this is one of the small crappy pics i took of the craft over Culloden woods.
Its a copy of a copy of a screen grab… sorry, its all people had. I deleted the others as they were I considered too poor to start a thread with.
THIS NEXT PART WAS WRITTEN BY MY WIFE ABOUT THE INCIDENT.
I do not agree with bits but as i say i was steaming murderously angry at the time.
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My husband has kindly given me the opportunity to come onto your web site and give you my version of events. Before I do this, I would like to show you photographs I took of his injuries from that nights encounter with what I believe to be something like a fish / human hybrid creature. I was going to join ATS to do this, but Daniel said that I required a certain amount of points before I could participate in this part of your site: so I am here to share with you my perspective of the event in question using his named character (it differs in certain places as you will see).
Please let me be frank about these photographs. They are cropped from the origionals for two reasons: 1) I am not tolerant of people asking to having my husbands face on the internet, and 2) I have a daughter to think of – I would not like her associated with any of these events even by chance.
Picture one.

This ‘patch’ apprears to be a superficial electrical burn. The swelling and redness did not respond to either cold treatment or burns dressing. In fact this actually made the redness more pronounced. This ‘patch’ is where the main arc of electrical discharge hit my husband to slow his assault so the creature could make its escape.
Picture two.

My husband thrust a knife deep into the eye, and pulled the creature down onto him into a severe choke hold, and stabbed furiously. The creature had him around under the arms scrabbling to gain purchase as it was I believe trying to break contact and escape. These scrabblings resulted in large scratches and again areas of red swelling, less pronounced than the shock patch, but as reactive to treatment. It was almost as if my husband had an allergic reaction to the creatures skin and fluids.
picture three

This is the other arm, and again you can see where the creature / android had prolonged contact the skin has reacted to it. However, the violence used against it was over whelmingly savage, and it had little time to either make an escape or defend itself, holding onto Daniels arms was its only way or means of self defence.

This is the left side of his back this afternoon. The scratches can easily be seen, as can the small cluster of puncture marks lower down on his back. I will also point out that the redness has abated considerably, leaving only small areas of redness that I believe will go within another 24 hrs. However, they can be stimulated to return if he gets into a hot shower with the temperature higher than luke warm (any higher than our daughter’s bath water and the redness returns).
Now, as for my version of the nights encounter.
The evening had been calm, relaxed, little Twiggy had gone to sleep early, and I had gone from the bathroom to the living room to tell daniel i was going to bed. he as usual said he would join me after he had been on the chat function room on your web space.
He said good night and I tucked down beside twiggy. I remember nothing until daniel came to bed, waking briefly as he laid down and lifted our daughter off his pillow into her ‘baby bed’ as he calls it.
The next thing I know I am laid on the bed, half asleep looking at a dolphin. its eyes were really wide and looking at me at eye level. I remember thinking ‘why is a dolphin sat on my bed room floor ?’. I felt really at ease even though this ‘dolphin’ was in my room, so I went right back to sleep. The next thing I know I am awakend by this terrible guttoral screaming. A pure animal rage and this sickening sound of shhnick, thud…schnick schnick schnick – and two very differnet cries. One is of deep pain and one is of animalistic rage and fury. I sat bolt upright to see this ‘dolphin’ is actually a tall human shaped ‘fish man’, and my husband is killing it.
One of its eyes is hanging down its face, half of its throat is hanging in ribbons, there are multiple stab wounds every where I look.
The creature tries to restrain Daniels arms, but he screams at me for his knife. The creature looked at me with utter horror in its remaining eye, and rolled off the bed. My husband however has it locked firmly in a combined head and arm lock and tumbles with it. Even though I saw the pain in this creatures eye, I threw the knife and listened as this creature got butchered on the floor.
I have never seen my husband like this before, it was as if some one had pumped him full of chemicals and unleashed him onto this creature.
Blow after blow rained down on it, until one of the knives got stuck fast in the creatures neck. I was sickened at this point because I see daniel missed this next point out. He started to head butt it, rising as high up as he could, and then slammed his skull into its face again and again. The noise was like a crunching breaking bone. It was neither pleasent nor some thing I ever wish to see again.
He then lept up, stamped on the creatures face and throat, wheeled round and grabbed one of his ice axes he uses for climbing. It was plain to see he really fully intended to have this creature as a trophy of some sorts, like you would keep a deers head on the wall.
I screamed then – I realised enough was enough – the creature was mewing like a dying cat. i didn’t want it to die in my house, not in my room, and not at my husbands hands.
Daniel looked briefly at me, and then the strangest ever thing happend.
He got hit by lightning. One bolt struck his arm, the other struck his left foot. He just stood riveted to the spot, and this creature let out a brief green / blue glow, and then vanished.
It had come ever so close to being butcherd it was lucky to escape.
Daniel was absolutely sky high with rage, throwing the axe at the floor, stamping and swearing, but then as if a switch had been flicked, he laughed briefly, said ‘what a fuggin night’, and climbed into bed.
the next thing I know is that it is morning time, and the room is smelling of sweet coconut aroma.
I looked at twiggy who was waking gentley for morning feed, and rolled to wake dan. He was awake, holding the handle of his folding locking knife.
I looked at him and every thing from the night rushed back. And then I knew it had not been some bizarre dream. My husband had come close to killing this being in the night.
The other thing Daniel seems to shrug off is the lady in the doorway. I awoke as twiggy stirred, and so did Daniel. brief, ever so briefly this blonde haired woman was framed in the door way and seemed terrified of being seen. I remember footsteps running across our wooden living room floor below and Daniel leant out the window shouting obscene threats at them related to being butchered alive and hung out to dry in the breeze.
He denies this, saying I was dreaming, but I know deep down he knows I am right, and that some nearly human women was in our house as well.
I can only say that you will either believe this or not, and either way I can not really worry, as i worry about daniels stupid and dangerous pre-occupation with this triangle UFO seen over the woods. I told him it was not a good idea, more than once he has come back from the woods spooked like a scared cat, but no, do you think he would stop ? not a chance in hell did he. he wanted pictures… so off he went. Ever seen Culloden woods in the dark ?
Although it made me very afraid, I don’t blame him for what he did that night, but deep down I know that what ever he has seen in the woods has meant that any being now stupid enough to approach him is in grave, deadly grave danger of losing its life.
I will one day try to prise out of him what he saw in the woods, but I think he needs to be in a better frame of mind before I try.
Lots of thanks for your time in reading my piece, and i hope this warning will make a few of you NOT go looking for UFO’s in the woods or where ever they are seen unless there is more than one of you and your fully prepared for what will come your way. As my Priest says, go looking into the abyss, and some times the abyss looks back.
Sophie T.
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My wifes account do vary from mine, because i can not recall head butting or leaning out a window screaming expletives.
That the room was cleaned and we were asleep though does say to me that some one at least was covering tracks . . . One last thing.
This has brought to a sudden halt my explorations round the woods by myself.
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This got posted in RATS because I needed a seriouse ‘get this off my chest’ place to air some thing thats really beyond any thing I have ever thought would be possible to experience. It is also a warning of sorts. if you go looking for these creatures, it seems they come looking back…
Fish humanoids ? vanishing into thin air ? clean spotless rooms like a maids worked all day in ? scratched to hell and electrocuted by a fishman ??
I would get destroyed should this of got onto the main boards.
SEE WHY I POSTED IN RATS NOW ?
I cannot sleep, i cannot lay down on a bed in the dark, i am getting serious ‘close my eyes and its there’ type of flash backs.. My room was cleaned whilst i was alseep..
You really think i want to destroy every thing I have earned here on ATS ?
No…but because members won’t buy RATS access I decided I would post this for them and others to see and discuss.
This is NOT a joke / hoax / leg pull / idiot post. I am deadly serious about this.
Heres another one I drew.

It explains what i think those slits on the face were instead of a nose.
the good news is or more to the point was my beautiful CQB knife.
I did actually explain that had you read the thread from the start.
‘aliens are hiding in my local woods’.
Hence I deleted the origionals. However, I do believe some thing is going on in / around the wooded area of Inverness.
When doused in hot water in the shower they sprang right back to their origional red soreness. It was actually for days very painful, itchy and unpleasent.
I cannot remember noises, but my wife said it made a noise like an injured animal as i was stabbing it.
i don’t care what it wanted. it was my house at night in my bedroom. Thats enough to warrant my reaction.
Thats not a smile, its like an over hanging solid ‘lip’ like feature. Bit like a heavy lip.
No. I don’t think i reacted violently. My room, at night, trying to touch my wife and child ? your getting the good news, period.
I saw this triangle UFO twice, once from the bedroom window looking AT the woods, and then again in the woods..
My wifes reation is strange. She actually saw a dolphin type creature until she fuly awoke. this ‘dolphin’ image lulled her back to sleep.. Could that of been its message ? or a way of communicating ? i dont know.
then she saw the same ‘fishman’ i saw. was this to pacify her ? re-assure her ? i don’t know.
But… I wasn’t going to break out tea and cakes and have a chat to find out.
I had the same redness on my face and forehead, so i guess my wife was right and I did head butt it a few times.. but we did grapple and roll a bit too.. so contact was unavoidable.
I’ll link it give me a few minutes.

It was either A) laid on the floor or B) crouched looking at her right in the face and knew she was about to awaken. I however was fully awake and really not happy at all, however it was not until it stepped from the shadows and leant forward did it get a mauling.
That alone makes me well angry.
Thinking about it, all i feel inside is a deep, almost primevil raging hatred.
A) am not sure.. kind of lost sound to it all to be honest. The wife described injured animal sounds.
Did the creature feel solid?
A) Very solid, very real, very imminent threat.
Did you notice any strange lights outside your house while this was going on, or were you too focused on this invasion?
A) No.. sorry was very busy trying to kill this thing to look about me.
Have you noticed any signs that they might be following your life?
A) Yes. I actually feel ‘spooked’ when i walk / bus / drive past the woods. My wife mentioned she felt ‘watched from the sky’ on the way and back from the shops tonight.
Could this being be a reptilian, or was it more fish-like then anything else?
A) felt like a fish did fresh from the sea.
You mentioned the eye poping like a bubble…Can you describe this any other way?
a) explosive decompression covering my hand and arm in fluid similar to our eye fluid but alot more pressurised.
Do you feel that your family’s life is in jeopardy?
A) If it appears again its dead or i will try every thing I can to kill it.
Any strange phone calls?
A)No.
Any strange people show up?
A) cannot comment at this stage. maybe, but am waiting a while before I answer
Thanks for your time!
2) The woods. Now, thats a question. The woods are not some where that i will be going back to in a hurry alone thats for sure. I think maybe it saw / followed / got curiouse but it was totally an invasion and uninvited.
3) the shock was a real nasty belt. the burn on my foot is huge – an inch long easy. That was not friendly at all.
It was double fastened over the chest with ties, no buttons nor zipper.
I noticed these details because I wanted ahand hold to pin it and have access to its throat for a killing blow. beautiful to touch though, ran through my fingers easily and was very very hard to gain purchase on.
the origionals are binned as I said in the start and because I didn’t think they were good enough to show or start a htread, i ditched them in favour of going hunting for better pics again.
Or maybe, just maybe your point is mute because we don’t know jack gipsy about aliens.
That it sustained such dreadful damage and yet still remained able to function is bewildering. But it did.. so.. wtf ?
Don’t A) whinge about the size.. its all the camera on the phone can take and B) don’t whinge theres only 1 as I am chuffed i got that still in the memory.

Its actions were not friendly or with good will in my opinion, so, it got what was coming to it.
Had it come during the day, and spoke to use at a safe distance, well, maybe, maybe I would be less liable to chop its face off 9or at least attempt to)
2) A u2u just asked me that, so ill post the same reply.
I got friends staying over that make the devil himself look like a nancy wussy boy. They come back they’ll get a killing like an 1800′s lynching in Texas.
You know what ? this has made me so deeply angry inside every time I type I just feel the need to pour hate out into the key board…
This thing has REALLY annoyed me.
Chitty Chat.
As for measures around the home / am on that too. RATS gave me alot of really good ideas and an equipment list.
As for did it seem violent ? well, skulking around my room in the dark at night is as threatening as it is allowed to get. It got what was coming to it for this action alone.
As for how I reacted. It was like some one turned off every thing in me bar this deep, burning pulsing animal rage. Every molecule of me wanted this thing dead, and it turned me stone cold inside bar an extreme primevil hatred. then as it got into range I just exploded at it.
My family are my concern, not finding out what this creature wanted. As far as i am concerned it can stay as far as it can away from me forever.
However, the shock was designed to hurt and it did, badly, and as I say the burns still very red and angry on my foot.
Erratic ? no, I am just very defensive at night, in my own locked home asleep with my family.
A descision I have come to regret.
It also had arms and legs.
How ever it didnt have ears or a nose, just those slit openings on the front of the head.
Sleep lights are not an option either with the wife and wee one in the room. So i sit with the laptop just surfing till the sun comes up.
I then do my day and nap when our daughter does. Its enough at the minute but i know long term I cannot go on like this.
However.
The women my wife described as ‘almost human’.
She was four feet tall, huge round brown eyes, like a parody of a human, a strange mop of blonde hair cut in a bizarre manner, a black tight fitting top and a tight but silver scaled pair of trousers. No lips, just a gash for a mouth, and, just like this creature, no nose.
My wife recalls glancing at her, and she ran away extremely quickly as if she should not of been looking…
It raised, and still raises great anger and hatred inside me – almost like.. you know like i knew it was up to no good..
and no, i don’t think I over reacted at all.
As for my family, they are my 100% main concern now.
Police ? right… i got attacked by an alien fish being.. Great, lets get social services in and take the child.
The media ? lets have the media take the pee on national telly and make my wifes career untenable. Thats NOT a smart idea.
I shared this in RATS ……… BECAUSE i had no where else to share it. Simple.
I will sit and do a full set of answers when i got a bit more time when not many people need a single / more simple question answered.
However, quickly. The blood was ornage and see through… like orange marmalade, and the eye fluid was clear just like a human eye, but under massive pressure.
When it stood up I saw it full on as it bent down, it was so damn ugly it just made me very very angry indeed.
as for mind games / I guess my mind just stopped all thoughts bar sheer naked aggression. Maybe thats what helped me ?
Ill dig them out after certain things have been done to the walls. Sorry if this is a pain, but its just how it is.
Oh yes, i am going to risk losing my child because of some Dr’s disbelief or anger at me.
This happend, i shared it on ATS to get it off my chest.
I am not having my family destroyed because your not happy with what i posted. Sorry, but thats how it is.


57′.294.41 N
4′.10.35 W
Culloden woods.

The creature as i keep saying looked like a fish, felt like a fish in its smoothness and its weird eyes.. So i guess until i know better i am calling it fishman thing type.
I have a small hand axe in the bag also, and the bag sits under the bed.
See all of input into the survival threads for the reasons why I have all of this.
But the pillow knife. Thats a habit I have had ever since I got caught in a curtain in a house fire as a kid and nearly got burnt because I couldn’t get out. a silly thing to you, but to me its some thing that need not ever happen again if I am prepared.
Highly acute alien ? it was in the shadows as I stated, stood up and leant over.. thats when it got pulled down towards me and stabbed in the eye.
It was i believe not forecasting these events to happen in this order as they were unfolding.
Sneaky ? maybe. Lucky ? maybe also. Effective ? oh yes with out a doubt.
When i read Gone to texas, I was hooked.
Herr Starr just makes me roar out laughing.
As for being scared ? well, no actually, just very very deeply utterly enraged.
next time i’ll blind it in both eyes and then work at its neck like a mad mujahadeen with a captive westerner.
Spreading hate ? errr this thing came into my house, uninvited and started thinking it had rights to do what it wanted ?
I really am not going to be all tree friendly with it, period. Nor would I be friendly to a human in that situation.
never did i ever say i leapt out of bed, not once. Twisting it to fit your comprehension is not a correct thing to do. Re-read what i wrote please next time.
Apart from seeing those black triangles we are just an ordinary couple and a small baby girl.
No special ‘special’ abilities to note – Jobs in health care, so your guess is as good as mine really.
How the hell did I get to sleep ? how did my wife get to sleep ? its not sane nor rational as i stated in the thread. thats bugging me alot too.
Every time I been in a violent situation and have had large adrenalin jolts i had the shakes and jabbering talkative mouth for hours.
This time i just went nice and calm back to bed. We both did.
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Well, we are all free to think what we like.
You know whats happening when i try ?
………. ? my minds feeling like its about to implode.
Self defence measure ? well maybe possibly it was. In my defence, I am not going to wait around and start trying to converse with it in the dark, at night in my bedroom.
I hope if its alive still it learnt its lesson well.
As for flamers ? well they are entitled to discuss and even chuck arguments against me, but some of the responses have been in all honesty what i expected.
Hence I kept it in RATS.
However, its behaviour so far isn;t really what i would expect from a civil being really. creeping round in the dark…
1) What happened when you went into the woods? Besides getting a picture did anything else happen?
A) Need abit of time to talk this over with the wife. I am having real deep troubles writing it down in a manner thats not totally jumbled.
2)What made you leave the woods? Did you notice any strange sounds? Smells? Any feeling of being watched? Prior to or in the act of leaving the woods? Was your “spider sense” tingling?
A) The woods will have to wait.Sorry.
3) You say this event took place on July 1st. When did you go into woods and take the picture? At what time of the evening did this event take place?
A) June. Late june time.
4) Can you describe what type of sound it was the woke you up? What made it seem so out of place? Could the noise be from the garments being worn? Much the way Corda Roy Jeans make a noise when you walk.
A) Some thing in the darkness. I know what it was actually ! velcro – I can hear a toy being pushed along the carpet in my minds eye.
5) Can you describe the lay out of your bedroom in reference to your bed? Did the creature enter through the door or was it in the room when you awoke? Which direction did the shadow move when you first noticed it? Is your side of the bed closer to the door and it go past you to your wife’s side of the bed?
A) if I was asleep how the heck do i know how the creature got in ? Did you read the first post ? I was asleep.
6) Can you describe the baby bed and where it is located in the room in reference to your bed, the door, and where the fight took place? Did the baby ever wake up or make any noise at all during the altercation? I ask this because I would imagine there was a lot of noise, banging on the floor, feet/arms smacking into night stands or furniture around the room, enough noise that it would wake anyone in the house.
A) baby ‘bed’ is in the middle of our king size, like a little cocoon for her. Its like got two plush sides and a matrees – a real ‘baby bed’.
7) As you layed there aware of it’s presense, what do you recall hearing? Smelling? Are your eyes open or closed? If open what did you see?
A) eyes open, smelling nothing watching the darkness move upwards.
How did you see this creature reach for one of your family without it noticing you were watching it? Can you explain your position in thebed in relation to where this creature was? At this point was it standing or crouched beside the bed? How much effort was it making to remain concealed at this point? At what point did your wife wake up while it was a “dolphin”?
A) Dude, really read the posts before adding such a list! LAID ON THE BED.
9) If I remember correctly you say the first strike was to stab it in the eye and as a result it “popped”. What can you tell me about any fluids from the creature? Thickness? Smells? Texture? Was it sticky? Was it warm or cold? How much time elapsed From this point to when you became aware of it? How much time has passed from the time your wife saw it to the timer you attacked?
A) OK you didn’t read the thread did you ? Orange sticky marmalade like blood, clear eye fluid under alot of pressure… ITS ALL IN THE THREAD ! Please read it.
Sorry, but if you cannot read through the thread to where i answered all of these questions my times not being taken by going over and again the same questions I already have been over more than once before.
Yeah i know, i need to examine it in more detail. Just not at the minute OK ?
she did mumble a few times as babies do in the night making noises, but that is baby noises. She seems as beautiful and well behaved as ever and sleeping well so i am hoping alls good.!



In the post where I explained this attack in my own words, I tried very hard to explain the furiosity of my husbands response to this creature being in our bedroom. This small posting on your web board is my husbands painful re-telling of the event in the woodland near to our village.
(One task I have managed to complete is to make a very crude composite drawing of this creature we saw in our bedroom.)

However, I digress from what I need to talk about, and that is what my husband encountered in the woodland.
I have sat and read through this whole thread and I will tell you this now; The nasty vile comments aimed at myself, my religious beliefs, Daniels integrity and mental capacity are sorely tempting me to disconnect the internet and say ‘To hell with you’. However, I have decided that what I found from Daniels relaxed state memories is very disturbing. It is here for you to make up your own minds and form your own opinions.
The woodland encounter. (Daniels words to me whilst in a deep relaxed state).
” I am walking down the track towards the small bridge”
“What is at the bridge ? why are you using the bridge ?”
“Nothing, I feel there is some thing high up in the trees following me though. I am goingto duck into the
tree line. I am being followed.”.
“Where are you now ?”
“The sun is speeding around the (expletive) sky! the (expletive) sun is doing loops and rolls, down, up, for (epletive) sake.. it’s gone bloody dark!”
“Fast forwards? twisting around the sky ? whats going on Daniel now ?”
“Its dark, the sun is setting but thats not right for nearly 4 pm. It looks like midnight. (gentle laughter)I can see people in the tree lines and small lights. Like a Christmas tree. How beautiful, I am going to have a look as the woods are lit like a Christmas grotto”.
“Why don’t you come back home ?”
“Nah, man if I just go in abit i’ll see the lights.The tree line is wrong, its very weird. The lights have vanished. For (expletive) sake, its dark and they turned the lights off !”
“Who are ‘They’ Daniel ?.”
“The people who have managed to get the black car stuck in the woods. (Laughter) They have a car in the
clearing! How the (expletive) did a (expletive) car get in there ? This I have got to go see!”.
“Who are they Daniel ?”
At this point he becomes highly distressed. Agitated and pulling at his clothing.
(expletives laden speech will be censored as ####)
“#### they are not, ## # # hell there is seven of them. #### I didn’t bring my stick, ##### they are not, it is not a car. ##### its dark, I cannot find the path. I am far too far from the #### track. Wheres the
#### track ? # ### # it, come on, come on then lets get twisty if you think you got it!”.
He reaches into his clothing.
“What have you got Daniel ? what have you got in yuor hands ?”.
He twists a bit on the sofa and laughs gently laughs.
“My spray alarm”.
He looks about arms extended.
(Loud hard laughter)
“Didn’t like that did you (expletive) wad hey ? now lets see if you can shift like Chritstie with a broken leg!”
He motions with his limbs on the sofa. It appears to me as a stamping and twisting motion. he now appears to be out of breath.
“(expletive laden speech) ###### it, see if they can catch me the ###### ###### ! (loud laughter and gesturing) You ain’t as twisty as you thought are you ####### ? no! (loud laughter)
“dammit, its not night, (expletive) its (expletive) day still. I just scared myself (expletive) stupid (gentle laughter). Oh my God! its a UFO over the woods! I did (expletive) oh (expletive) dammit wheres is my camera! the (expletive) phone !”.
He appears to aim some thing up at the sky – It also appears he has either blanked out teh creatures and the shifting sun, or its a defensive measure from the brain itself.
This is the point where he awakens very abruptly and refuses to talk about the woodland encounter any more. He has sat on the edge of the sofa now for almost an hour, not really talking, just drinking a cherry coke
(since the encounter his sugar intake has risen four fold).
Before anyone asks, no I am not a professional therapist, nor will I identify the person who was sat with me helping me to try unpick just what happend that day. I will however say that what ever it was, it appears that my husband had the very unfortunate luck to either run into a planned ambush set out by these creatures, or it was truely a chance encounter with them; However, it is my belief, after hearing this from Daniels own mouth that it was niether myself or our daughter that was at risk in the night time visitation.
I truely 100% believe that they came for Daniel for reasons unknown.
I however now form the opinion that his actions that night were in a state of self defence and this was not a benign creature wanting a dialogue about world peace. What it did want with my husband I hope I never find
out. However, it seems that for some reason, he appears to be able to ‘see through’ their disguised nature to an extent, and still be able to function in a defensive manner.
So, I again Thank you for your time and please, if you don’t believe this event or our account, don’t be so vitriolic, just don’t read this.
Last note. My husband did not want this on the internet but I disagree strongly. These creatures appear to be very single minded in their pursuit of my husband, and I fear that this may not be our last encounter with these beings. I will however say that if this or other beings appear in our home again, I will gladly assist my husband in trying to hasten its demise.
Sophie T.
You also state that my husband should of tried to slit this creatures throat. It appears to me then you have not read through the account. My husband had this creatures face and throat hanging in shreds, this strange orange blood every where and you, you have the nerve to say ” should of slit its throat”.
I applaud my husband for posting this out in the open, and I firmly state that your vitriolic attacks in your wisdom against my husband are sickening. I dearly wish he had kept this a secret in the RATS forum, as seeing the low attacks aimed at daniel makes me very unhappy indeed.
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He warned you all before he wrote his piece that it was violent, it did contain aggressive wordings and actions, so why are you so shocked that it did as he said ?
I will be back in a few minutes, because I would like to add here my session. It may not be what your expecting at all, but its as my mind recalls events of the small almost human women.
She leads me to the edge of the bed, and I lay once more on my side watching this cube tumble and rotate in the air, marvelling at its ability to float and roll in the air currents. The small child strokes my hair and I feel a gentle tugging as the covers are pulled up over me until i am covered almost to my chin. The cube stays rotating at my eye level.
The room however then begins to distort, and I feel panicky and want to move. The quilt seems superglued to my form and I am unable to move. The room distorts further and further, and then folds in on itself. It seems we are small, very small, almost microscopic in size relation to the room now, and yet I can feel Twiggy laid next to me breathing softly, I can hear Daniel in his normal deep sleep pattern. Yet we are tiny, shrunk down to matchbox sized and we are floating with this cube.
More of these small children are in the room, but they are busy. They have small belts with loopes and boxes on them, like Daniels belt kit, but small and of the scaled material they seem to use. They are every where around us. They are on hands and knees, they are shining these green torches at all and every surface of the room, and I laugh a little as they are even cleaning the toys that were under the bed, hidden amongst all the other junk and suitcases under there.
They seem to be finishing, they are leaving one by one, and I again panicky, are they going to leave us spinning here above the bed ?, I am trying to call them back, but it seems one is still not quite finished. Drawing out a large piece of that scaled material, he holds it against the wall. a brief flash emits from it and he folds it back into a small tiny square, tucking it neat and tidy into his belt. They all leave apart from the young girl. She floats us back to the floor, and I can feel us occupying the room at correct size once more. She stands by the bed and takes the cube from me. I call out, and she darts to the door way and Daniel leaps from his side and tries to run to the door. It slams shut in his face as if an invisible hand had hold of it. he runs to the window and throws it open, shouting and screaming. He turns to look at me, his eyes seem very blank, but he just smiles his half sleepy smile and gets back into bed.
I awake in the morning and he is sat on the bed with a knife handle in his hand. The blade has vaninished. My telling him of a fantastical dream I had last night goes right out of my mind. Fear and anger course through me, anger at the night, anger at these creatures, and anger at Daniel and his stupid need to get pictures of some thing he nor I understand. Why did he go into the woods ? well I would say curiosity for most part, and a desire to show people on this board he was not a liar or a fantasist; He really had seen these craft and he really did know where they were landing.
I feel in hindsight that this was either a strange misfortune for him and us, or it was a trap that went awry and they did not expect to meet Daniels stubborn minded nature coupled with his natural agressive defensiveness.
Which ever it is, I pray to Jesus that it never, ever happens again.
Now, to explain why Daniel also does it. I marked and corrected alot of his university work on a computer screen before he handed his tutors a rough draft for their comments. It would drive me up the wall that my eyes were being strained, and for three years I asked him to place a spacing to prevent eye strain (you will be amazed at how this little space can prevent eye strain as your brain fills in gaps of words, as long as the first and last letter are in correct order. Having this space meant I could speed read and correct it faster than reading word by word).
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So, grammatical errors ? Please, when your a University tutor worry about it, until then, don’t.
OK. To the gutter it goes.
Lets get twisty people.
I am totaly p#### off that people here look at me and the wifer and say wow they must be the same people. yeah i just got a full recap because i just been getting readu to stayw wake all night – the showers my prep me up.
So none of you been married or with a partner for a decade then no / well ill tell you some thing. we like the same food ! Gosh ! we MUST be the same person ! we like the same movies and outdoor pursuits ! DAMMMIT! we must be the same person then hey?????
so tell you what, omg she knows how i like my dinner and i like how she likes her chocoltae cake…..OMGZ !! Godzers we MUST be thesame ‘ # # # # # ## person then hey ?
I cannot believe you lot at all.
You get my pics of this craft, you get my imhjiures you get my onw account and you get my wife STUPIDLY trying to assist you when i cannot as i am dying on my feet here peopole afraid to sleep in the bloody dark because this creatures deicded to make me its science project.
so yeah i am titssed of at this. yes i am going to create a second account for my wife and then she can do her own thing here on ATS if she is in mind to.
her eloquence shames alot of you, as does her patience in dealing with you.
a ‘?’ raised such a big deal that ‘wow wee they the same people and my wife even lowers herself to your level to explain why…
she went up in my estimation – many, many of you just dropped through the floor.
and to cap it all i havent even had time to have a cherry coke or a nice civilised talk in chat yet.
so yes i have been involved in violence, alot of it actually, and i do know that afterwards i need at least 5 to 6 hours cool down before i can either eat or sleep.
In your experiences in the woods, when you first said that you saw a craft, were you totally aware of the time, are you shure that you can account for every minute of that first experience?.
A) No i cannot account for every minute of my time, not even with ‘help’ via a therapist. Not yet any way.
When you first saw the ship in the woods, what where your feelings?, were you surprised, were you afraid, were you excited, or do you not remember what you felt?.
A) scared and angry, but I remember the joy I felt at seeing this fantastic Christams grotto of light sin the trees.
When this being came to your room, did you at any time get any message from it?. You said that you phisically damaged the creature, when you were doing so, did you get at any time a sense that this thing was trying to tell you something?.
A) No. I didn’t thiunk any thing at all. I seem to have a very acute recollection of textures and anger, but not sounds / time.
Are there any prior experiences of this sort in your family, or your wife`s family?.
A) I have not aksed.
Have you had any further dreams of this creatures of creatures like it?.
A) I see this thing every time I go to sleep. I am afraid to sleep in the dark as I feel its waiting for me to go to sleep. If that makes any sense at all.
What religion do you profess? (If you don`t want to answer that is just o.k.).
ummm… A jesus follower who loves the message but not the churchs autocratic nature.
Are you into the occult in any way, if you are not, are there any members of your family that are? (If you don`t want to answer that is just o.k.).
I used to be a real ghostie lover. I have seen ghosts more than once in different settings.
Thanks Dan
A) pleasure. I am awake and cherry Coke fuelled.
I will take a few minutes to do a really accurate sketch for you.
Any way… as I said I would. A better picture with a rough colour guide to it.

Let me go back and find your questions. For your own benefit look at all the questions i did answer for people before I fell asleep !

but cheers for the giggle.
My response to you is the following.
I sat, I brooded, I chugged juice, I argued with my inner thoughts, I sat at the computer, and watched the world go by. i cried a bit, I walked around the house, I sat and played with the wee one, I cooked dinner, I got on with trying to be a normal guy with a family.
I surfed ATS, I chatted to people, i asked opinions and they all said RATS it… the main board will f### you up if you breath a word of this.
I showed people pictures, I asked opinions, I felt that water, and after a deliberate thought process decided that i had good solid postings here, so i would at least get a fair hearing.
I did, in RATS. I discussed it, i answered every question, I gave the htread pictures, i showed the broken knife missing its blade, I showed just how badly I needed this kept tight.
I sat down and poured out all of the anger inside of me at this event, and its silent chaotic wave it has ploughed through my life.
So… if it seems I was ‘doing all right’ and posting mundane things, your career as a human behavior expert is going to be very short lived indeed.
I have seen prisoners scalded with boiling water and sugar try tidy up their cells before we got there because they were house proud… rational ? would you do that ? no me niether. But he did.
So… your post about me doing normal stuff. Thats just how it was. i was trying to grip it all and present it in a rational manner to say ‘look, wtf happend to me people.. don’t try follow these things about’ kind of post.
I have said time and again i cannot expect every single person to believe me or my wife. Thats just not possible. What i will say is that I NEED to get this out of me – like a silent therapy where I can post it, see it, think about it and then deal with it because it is then in abstract i.e. the page cannot hurt me or mine.
therapy folks, its my therapy.
Hmm.
I have a hard time believeing that Dan himself doesn;t believe this to be true, i.e. it’s not a concious hoax. As he pointed out, why on earth would he post such a ludicrous story in RATS then bring it here, knowing he’d open himself up to the pages of bashing and slandering that inevitably occured? To him this was extremly real, IMHO.
I have some serious problems with the story myself however, i’ll detail them as follows:
1. The wounds Dan apparently inflicted upon this creature are exteemly heavy and I have an incredibly hard time believing that if you can pierce the skin/hide of a creature and stab it multiple times, including destroying an eye and ripping out the throat, that it wouldn’t die there and then. The obvious defense is ‘oh it’s an alien/demon/reptilian/hybrid so it’s doesn;t have to follow the natural laws that govern suvivability factors for every earthbound creature we know of’, but frankly that’s just silly. If you bleed, if you loose an eye as apparently the least of your injuries, it is highly likely you’ll die from your injuries there and then.
A) and so it should of. Humans die from single stab wounds to arteries in the neck and eye, and i know this for fact. Thats WHY it got so many eye / throat / neck wounds.
2. If it managed to survive the severe mauling, why did it wait until it was slashed to pieces and obviously in a horrendous state before it did it’s electri eel act and phased out/ disappeared? That makes no logical sense for any intelligent creature. You’re going about your business, nefarious or otherwise and get stabbed in the eye, which you loose, what creature that obviously isnt a savage monster, would stick around for some more punishment? That seem ridiculous.
A) Ridicule away dude. the only thing I can think of is that it needed me seperated from itself before it could shock me. maybe ? maybe not, but i just don’t know.
3. If said horrendously maimed creature gets away, why in god’s name is somethings or someones unknown going to go ‘aww nuts, better patch that up’ and clean up the place? If we assume that a creature capable of entering the room undected and leaving it in a magical disappearence act, and electrcute people, got torn to pieces by an assailent that they had prehaps intended as their victim and survives to leave, then we have to assume that it’s pretty advanced. If it’s people were involved in fixing up Dan’s home without his knowledge, why was the same technique not used to make him and his family not notice anything in the first place?
A) as i am a human and not privvy to their wants and means, I again cannot answer. My wifes description of the cube / rooom shrinking is totally bizarre to ME… okay ? so lets not say we know how these beings operate until they plain as day show us in a class room.
4. Then theres the issue of the woman at the door and whether she/it was responsible for the clean up in some benevolant crisis management move. Not 1 but two (3 if the dolphin vision wasn;t the main fish thing) turning up in one night? Odds say unlikely. Guardian angel trying to rectify things? Who knows, maybe.
A) Please see my wifes post about these small creatures cleaning up – But don’t expect to come away with out alot of head scratching.
Just some points to consider. I really don;t know what to make of all this…
A) me neither, me neither dude.
thanks for your time. and to answer your question.
I never saw any of the events my wife said she saw. I never saw these small beings, nor the cube that so entranced my wife, neither was I awake when we were allegedly shrunken so they could clean around us.
Nor did I see the green lights or cleaning efforts as my wife did. But I believe her, and you know why ?
because when i awoke the room was spotless, even under the bed.
Also, its eyes were like saucers and had huge round pupils. However, the ridges over the eyes is almost identical, but the scales are too heavy. This being was like a fish scales, not a snake nor a komodo dragon.

But your picture is bloody good… did you do it ? and could you do me one ?
Thanks, daniel.
So..I see no flaw captain.
Aprreciated.
2) yes it had hands and looking at them in my minds eye as they were palm up…three fingers and webbed slightly at the base.
3) Strength ? like a well built human but one thats never fought a battle for life before. Like a boxer who expects rules get shocked when a savage jumps them.
As for techniques, i feel that its mind was too focused on shocking me and not using its own arms legs and head as I was doing.
nothing bad ass about it. Just pure plain anger needing to be let out.
You were warned at the start about content and language.
Sorry dude, but thats from a poster who i will not add onto main board.
If I need to post it again ill drag it from her word files and do so if it helps
1) Twiggy slept all the way through. I have no recollection of her waking, nor does my wife.Also she was cocooned in her baby bed all night to boot.
2) My wife is coping by talking to me and a few trusted people. She is a very highly regarded professional and in her circles has alot of open minded friends who know her well and are able to offer guidance and time.
3) The clean up. Did you read how they cleaned up ? although i will be looking at UV traces when by black light arrives.

I do worry alot about how safe Sophie is at home if I am out, it would kill me too deep for words should any thing bad happen to them.
But, I can only do what i can do and no more.
Humbled, startled, and a bit ashamed that i may have brought this upon my family through a stupid ‘oh look lets go find a secret triangle craft’ desire.
First, I never got to hit it with the ice axe.
Second, my wife remembers the clean up or at least seeing the being in the door way, I do not.
Third, I sat and had alot of soul searching to do before posting – Hence it went into RATS. Its in RATS and I regret sharing it out here.
Fourthly, My wife is a professional health care senior staffer, and knows a hell of alot of people who amongst them have more open minds and more helpful areas of expertise. The person who helped us actually has helped others before with event recollection.
Fifth point. A transponder ? point to where i said that. Point to where i say he was beamed up. It said neither.
So…. you twisted it to fit your mockery, shame on you.


I deleted some information from the post.

(Before you ask the defensive spray is fully legal for use in the UK and can be obtained from any good self defence product store).
However, I didn’t even realise I had seen any beings in the woods I just spent a few days feeling uneasy and off kilter.

the blade to my knife i have the handle to has also vanished, where abouts unknown.
I said all of the above in my first few posts. the wife THREW me the good news so i could use it as the creature tried to control my right arm…
I posted all that already ……
I apologise.
My left foot.

No there are no signs of any entry at all. I assume they came the same way this creature vanished. Wobbled in and out and ceased to exist in our world.
Thats not fair dude, really not fair. I came back and hell i fronted every question I could since I got onto the web. Even the wife added her stuff…
What more can i do ? nothing thats what, I am doing my best., so is my wife.

This is a no kid you thread, where I tried to get across to people an event that took place in my home, and also prior in the woodland around the village.
This is not a funny hahaha event for me – it is deeply traumatic actually.
It is dark, at night, in a bedroom, a creature vastly non-human stands over the bed adn seems to be about to touch either your sleeping wife or baby.
You then tell me I am wrong to defend them without asking questions.
So your against violence. You would rather ask a question, alert some thing to your awake status and who know whats happens, or, do as I did and defend against it from the start ?
Its nothing short of amazing. I would of done the same to a human if they had been stood there, so no, I don’t think it was strange at all.
As for bringing gifts… well i have a doorbell.

Mouth needs aharder over hanging lip, there needs no nostrils, but slits down the cheeks that i presume were notril functions. Much larger eyes and no ears what so ever.
Every thing else seemed to go out the window.
What happend after this ? well, I still have no idea.
Originally posted by Peepers
Originally posted by Dan Tanna
This is the pattern my wife keeps drawing – on phone bills, on place mats, on the telephone pad.
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8 sided star is the sign of sun, eternity, symbol of life and 888 represents jesus in greek as the star octagon found in crop circles.
These are the secret builders of the human race and they do as they wish in the realm of mortal man. We are beginning to see weirdness propogating as ufos, shadows, and strange beings entering our consciouness.
The reptoid may have only been observing your family as you awakened to a state of fight or flight. Unfortunately for the aliens, when they practice poor judgement in our reality, and not operate in the ethereal, they become the victim(s). They can be a corporeal form and damaged by mortal man.
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Well….. I never. I just learn some thing else every time some one puts up an intelligent post. Thanks you for this, but man, I am so totally over my head with this whole cube thing..
its like these little folk could do what ever thye wished with it. Amazing, truely stunningly amazing.
Thank you for understanding this. As for the sore skin, its still sore on my arm fooot and back now.
Daniel.
Movings high on the list of the to do page I can assure you.

As for my clothes, I sleep lite dude.
Also, frogs squeak and squeel when you pick them up and they don’t have voice boxes… as do many cretaures with no ‘voice’ box.
You know, some thing is tugging me from my childhood thats really making me say ‘do i need to go much further back’ to find out wtf is going on.
I hate to say this, but after reading a few things, i think the answer may be yes.
A few questions, did his skin have a transluscency to it?
A) No, it was solid and hurtable.
How big were the scales?
A) like a Perch (fish) but very sleek and smooth, not like a land lizard but as I say, a fish.
What color were the eyes?
A) Like big cod eyes. huge black pupils rimmed with t tiny bit of dark brown / black adn alot of whites.
Did he ever say any words?
A) no.
Do you recall in any greater detail what his clothing was like?
A) Super soft, beautiful cloth, scaled but not armoured.
Weird huh ? but no, it was in my recall these fish type beings in the woods.
I awakend, it was there, it got it. I was in fear of my wife, my child and my own life.
end of story.
Hey Dan, thanks for moving this out where normal ATSers like me can read it. That’s a hell of an account for sure.
These questions might not be so easy to answer, but if you can I’d appreciate it.
1. Did this thing seem to want to retaliate in any way other than the shock? Or did it just seem to want to get you off it? It seems from the story it just wanted to get away, but at that point, I probably would have wanted the victory of knowing full well that it was dead in front of me.
A) i totally feel that it wanted to gain the upper hand but aggression and the element of suprise was on my side.
2. You said you’ve had to fight for your life before. Was this fight anything like your struggles against humans or was there differences in how it “felt”? Weird question but I really want to know for some reason.
A) Totally different from fighting humans. Grapple a human, choke hold them and seperate their oxygen suplly and they stop fighting. Hit then hard and they really don’t want any more. This thing took a major assault and still tried getting the upper hand.
3. Sorry if this has been answered, I just read through 37 pages and tried to get it all. Can you just list the creatures you saw in the woods. Were they all different or just a group of the version that you fought.
A) just versions of the one I encountered in my room.
Well done, regardless bro. I have no reason to think you’re faking this. It seems almost from the aftermath of the “cleaning process” that you were drugged into slumber. Craziness.
You might also want to look into some writing, you and your wife have a knack for the written word.
And look at it this way. Based on its inability to really do any bad harm to you, you should be reassured that even if they come back around, it probably isn’t for hostile reasons. It was just stupid to think you wouldn’t lash out.
A) well if it does come back with gift laden arms and an apology, well alls fair if it made a genuine mistake.
He had no smile, no friendly nature in it at all. It was horrific.
But, I am going to go through family history and ask some bare bones questions from family members.
Some thing is not right, and it is bugging me.
You either stand up for your family or you let them be doormats.
Your choice.
At the end of the day, you in my house, at night, uninvited, you better had brought your own body bag to be carried out in.
if they say no, well no it is.
some people here know me better than others, some in RATS are like how the hell you know that!?! they go off, check stuff, and go OK, thats real. You check out.
I am in no way going to forsake that kind of trust for a story that is false.
Wether people hate me, want to hurt me, flame me or what ever they want to do because they don’t agree, then that is some thing even if i put a dead severed head on my desk and took a photo, they would say ‘HOAX!’.
However, I have one thing to say. This happend, its real, it still is real and always will be real.
and then what ? the CRKT that I lovingly would never ever use as a survival knife ?
Oh you mean you don’t know the difference in uses ? you don’t know why I would want five, six, seven bladed tools ?
Wow… cut me a scar so I remember your post forever.
Its a fun thread, but a good thread, and WTF is has to do with my credibilty in this thread I have no idea. So i like outdoors ? so i like to have survival stuff stored packed and planned for.
What your looking at there is a parred down ultra light ‘all times kit’ that contains every thing needed for at least two weeks on foot travel to stashes. Its carried at all times.
Its always with me dude, always. I have there a years worth of water, a 12,000 strike fire kit X2, saw and knives, first aid kit (personal), wind up torch …. map compass whitsle and a brand new gortex bivvie in olive drab.
I’ll accept a board apology. I’m man enough for that. 

Apology in bold print will be fine.
See, your quick with your tongue and it just got caught in a door marked ‘you talking out your arse’. You know nothing about me, where i come from or what i used to do before I settled down, JS nothing.
I will never, ever ask a question of ANY being in my room, at night near me or my family, period.
I don’t care who thinks he may of come with good intentions, you were not there, full stop. You did not see it, nor did you fight with it, nor were you shocked by it.
I was.
I have nothing at all to learn from a being that skulks around in the darkness attempting to touch my family. Nothing full stop.
So, no more debate with me over what i should and should not of done. I did what I did, and its a course of action I would take 100 times out of 100.
HOW EVER
As I have said, time and time again in this thread, should it appear, in daylight, announce itself loud and clear, present a clear signal of peaceful intent and say ‘my bad’ and apologise, I would accept that.
If this happend, i would say ‘ok alls good’.
But it didnt happen like that.
It chose to skulk in the dark. bad idea.


Am going to watch the vids too.
Thank you for your kind thoughts though, daniel.
Nuclear physics, medicine, warfare, engineering, law all elarn from books. The only people who learn survival from non-teaching methods that combine class and field are natives of old. They had trial and error, we have education. Guess education bothers you, so… go back to your pint.